Vanessa and Casper explore the theme of pleasure in chapter eleven of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. This week Casper and Vanessa discuss the ethics of Hermione confunding McLaggen, Hagrid’s fight with the trio, and Lavender’s crush on Ron. Throughout the episode we consider the question: Do we like things more when we get to experience them less?

Thanks to Emily Hilton for this week's voicemail! Next week we’re reading chapter twelve, Silver and Opals, through the theme of Resilience.

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