This week, Vanessa and Matt explore the theme of Satisfaction in Chapter Sixteen of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix! They discuss Zacharias Smith's intro to the DA, Hermione's leadership, and Harry's chance to finally speak about what happened to him last year. Throughout the episode we consider the question: are we allowing ourselves to be satisfiable? Next week we're reading Chapter 17, Educational Decree Number Twenty-Four, through the theme of Refuge.